Posts by Anders Andersen

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Am I imagining this cover or what?

by carla in

i am trying to remember a cover of a wt or awake that had a picture of a priest or maybe even the pope.

i think the issue came out in the height of the catholic sexual abuse cases and being disappointed in your religion or something like that.

i have searched this site and google images but not be using the correct key words.. the reason i am looking for it is because should it come up that jw's are being persecuted due to all the recent publicity i would like to ask a jw if the wt and the mainstream media were 'persecuting' the catholic church when they were uncovering wrongdoing in that religion or any other.

Anders Andersen

There's orange and some priest paraphernalia on page 31 of Awake 1993, April 8th, and article about the Catholic child abuse issue. Hypocrite fucks.

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

Yes, I did. But not manually, I use tools for that ;-)

How did you find this site btw?

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

For whoever is interested: I have a copy of all of the 1000+ (financial) year reports (2015,2016,2017) for JW charities in the netherlands, that Watchtower provides at http://www.jw-anbi.nl

Next step is combining these PDF reports into a spreadsheet for analysis.

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

Wow fulano that is a treasure trove!

Financial statements for all Watchtower charities in the Netherlands!

I'll do some downloading and comparing for sure!

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

@Gorby,

I think the JW game is clear as day. They'll stonewall anyone who ever wants to investigate them.

What's your opinion on RV?

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

@fulano,

I collected some news items here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exjg/comments/8llqfk/in_het_nieuws_minister_wil_intrekken_anbi_status

The actual meeting of the minister with part of the house of representatives can be watched here: https://debatgemist.tweedekamer.nl/debatten/zeden?start=7566

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Dutch government look for possibility to revoke JW charity status (=tax breaks) after JW refuse independent investigation re. abuse

by Anders Andersen in

well, the title says it all.

the dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of jw after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.. the government urged the jw to start an independent investigation into the jw child abuse issues, and after some stalling the jw flatout refused.

unfortunately the government can't really force them.. the chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with jw.. and in the meantime the da will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police..

Anders Andersen

Well, the title says it all. The Dutch government will look into the possibility to revoke the charity status of JW after they refused to cooperate in the child abuse scandal.

The government urged the JW to start an independent investigation into the JW child abuse issues, and after some stalling the JW flatout refused. Unfortunately the government can't really force them.

The chance that the charity status is actually revoked is very small as there appears to be no legal basis to do so, but right now the government and house of representatives are very annoyed with JW.

And in the meantime the DA will continue their investigation based on the victims officially reporting abuse to the police.

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Impact of GDPR on WT HQ and EU branches?

by respectful_observer in

curious if any of our eu-based members (especially those still in) have heard anything from official wt channels on how the organisation plans to be in compliance with gdpr ("general data protection regulations") by may 2018?

it's my understanding that religious organisations must comply, and that religious data is treated a "protected" and therefore subject to some enhance requirements.. specifically, how will they comply with the following requirements:.

you must disclose to the individual: what data you collect on them, why, and what you do with the data (including what other parties receive the data and what they do with it).

Anders Andersen

@corney,

Thanks, that must have been a lot of work!

Do German religions really have the power to create a 'religious law' that adds to or even substitutes secular law as your translation of 'Gesetz' with 'law' implies? Or is this just a 'policy'?

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My Personal Atheist Manifesto?

by dubstepped in

so, i have a guy that is emailing me after listening to my podcast series "this jw life" about my life story before, during, and after being a jw.

this guy happens to be an elder and pioneer serving where the need is greater.

i love this guy.

Anders Andersen

Didn't read all of this but this guy is basically a 'catholic' jw in that he claims to believe (but not based on reason and logic), but does as he pleases anyway.

I've noticed this disconnect between believing in JW and obeying watchtower is quite common in Brazil/South America

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HOURGLASS!--What Do We Know About It?

by Atlantis in

your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.

a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.

perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?

Anders Andersen

Atlantis,

Afaik there's nothing wrong here from the legal point of view.

Under GDPR, hourglass is responsible for keeping the data stored with them safe without sharing it with other parties, but it's the congregations that collect the data and have it stored at their behalf. So the congregations are responsible for maintaining, deleting, etc.

As long as the congregations properly inform their victims where their data is stored, how, and why, gdpr is followed.

Compare this with web server providers: the providers are responsible for keeping any data stored with them safe, but they are not expected (or even allowed) to honor data removal requests for any of the websites their customers are running on their servers.

Or email: you can't ask microsoft to remove any data from my email box that I may have collected on you. You have to ask me.

From a JW POV this site is highly questionable of course.